 | what? really?? so we can't post music? Or what? That's bullshit. |
 | lol,,well it was really only a matter of time! |
 | p1an0 wrote on Apr 16, '07 I don't think this is going to work. you would need a team of hundreds working around the clock to get all the copyright material off Multiply.I hope they are just using you as an example... or maybe a band complained... were those Metallica songs? |
 | yeah it was the blues playlist, the mstrkrft playlist, and i forget the other one. since they sound so nasty about it, i think i'll just delete all my playlists. i will wait for their reply to my email first tho. yeah its lame. the ease of posting music was pretty much my favorite thing about multiply. but lately i have been getting alot of random people looking at my profile, so maybe i need to make the music playlists not public. in the future i would suggest mis-spelling the artists names on the songs you post. |
 | that is so lame! multiply gets a minus 3 for that. |
 | was the music available for everyone to see? i only post music for my contacts - germany has really strict rules about copyright material... |
| wonder why the hell you can upload it then, you would think they have a more present disclamer! |
 | saimy wrote on Apr 17, '07 If you made it available for everyone, they are probably pretty nervous for getting sued. At least American courts hold platform providers liable for stuff posted by their users. Think of all the file sharing platforms that got taken down. They never distributed copyrighted material themselves. So I can totally understand multiply's step.
A completely different question is, if you just share them with your contacts (or even network). That way, songs are not publicly available, which would be legal file sharing, even of copyrighted material (at least in Germany). |
 | thanks for the legal analysis, solicitor simi! |
| yeah i have always made my playlists public, but i'll have to make them more private from now on i guess. |
| saimy wrote on Apr 18, '07 Where do I sent my invoice again? |
| service wrote today at 5:07 PM
panthermartin said;
-"am i allowed to have playlists with copyrighted material at all? i have changed the rest of my playlists to be only accessable by my contacts. is this enough? "
service replied;
-No, it is a violation of Multiply's terms of service to share copyrighted works without permission. Keeping the music private to your contacts is still violating our terms.
Curtis
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| oh man. that is SO lame. why do they even give you the option to share music???? |
| saimy wrote on Apr 19, '07 Hm. Here is the exact wording in their terms: promotes an illegal or unauthorized copy of another person's copyrighted work such as [...] providing pirated music Ok, you can't share music which you already illegally obtained (obvious, I think, even if sharing with contacts). But I *think*, that you can legally share your (copyrighted) music with your friends (at least in Germany), which makes it a legal and authorized copy (but I am not an expert for copyright laws). |
| service wrote today at 3:06 PM Hello, Have your amateur lawyer reference our Terms of Service agreement and let us know if either one of you have any other questions. If you sign up for Multiply you automatically agree to follow our terms of service agreement. I'm sorry to say that whatever goes in Germany is no concern for us since we are an American based company. Let us know if you have any other questions, http://multiply.com/info/tos-Roman |
| saimy wrote on Apr 21, '07, edited on Apr 21, '07 Hahaha, "amateur lawyer". Very nice. I will add this to my collection. Something tells my that Roman is quite a lawyer himself. To beat the legal argument (and the improve my reputation as a legal moron) here is my point: I sit in Germany and under German copyright law I can legally share copyrighted work with my close friends and family. Therefore, the German law gives me the permission to share. One could argue that I am sharing with permission of the copyright holder. In which country and under which circumstances I obtained that permission is irrelevant.
But to be fair, I am not a copyright lawyer and I am definantly not familiar with international copyright law.
I think we should just leave it. I don't know if they really care about private music lists, even if they violate copyrights. Since they are private, no copyright holder can see them and come after multiply. Sure, they have to say to don't like it, because otherwise it could be used in court against them. |
| why do the multiply workers all come across like such tits?
"Have your amateur lawyer..." holy asshole. what a jerk |
| they are obviously dorks that think they are awesome. |
| they have now sent me two more "copyright violation" messages so everything is on the lock down now. if there is something of mine you would like to listen to i will grant you access for the day or something like that. |
| p1an0 wrote on May 8, '07 I don't think they like you :( maybe you should make a new account just for musak. |
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